This was a random conversation.
This dude IM'd me from nowhere and started talking to me. He asked me this question and it spawned a clash of beliefs. Just thought I'd share it with you all.
punKeEbreWstEr65: if you died tonight where would you go
close2thesilence: depends on who's asking
punKeEbreWstEr65: llamas
close2thesilence: well, who is this?
close2thesilence: lets try it this way, where would you go if you died tonight?
punKeEbreWstEr65: uo
punKeEbreWstEr65: *up
punKeEbreWstEr65: to Jesus
close2thesilence: interesting concept
punKeEbreWstEr65: whats your viewpoint
close2thesilence: well, I wouldn't know until I woke up. I'd wake up dead and realize something was wrong. I'd probably start my work as a spirit guide, like other lost souls have done for me.
punKeEbreWstEr65: hm
close2thesilence: I'm a personal prophet. I believe what makes the most sense to me. That's why I created my own "religion" although I don't really like to call it that. It's more like a collection of ideas that I hold particularly high when it comes to the aspects of belief verses facts.
punKeEbreWstEr65: hm
punKeEbreWstEr65: so what do you believe
close2thesilence: that's quite a vague statement to say the least. Because there are so many other questions that exist inside that one. Take for example, do I believe in an afterlife? Yes I do. Do I believe in God? Jesus? No I don't. Evolution vs. Creation? I stand with the evolutionists. And then with my answers comes an entire new string of questions.
punKeEbreWstEr65: how was the first thing created
close2thesilence: good question. I don't know the answer to that. I don't think we'll ever know. But the basis of all matter is atoms and the basis of all atoms is electricity. Electricity is the building block of everything. So where did the electricity come from? My best answer is nowhere. Electricity can be generated from out of nothing and disappear into nothing. It's quite a fascinating thing if you think about it.
punKeEbreWstEr65: so you believe in nothing
punKeEbreWstEr65: you believe that it just happened
punKeEbreWstEr65: noone did it?
close2thesilence: yeah. I mean, sure, you could believe a glamerous story that this being sitting in the void of nothingness got lonely so he decided to "create" a world. It's a lovely bedtime story full of good intentions but it makes no sense to me. If the electricity that formed everything had to come from somewhere, then so did god.
punKeEbreWstEr65: There has to be a begingin
punKeEbreWstEr65: God is beginning
punKeEbreWstEr65: its more than a bed time story
punKeEbreWstEr65: its a reality
close2thesilence: to you and those who wish to believe it. To me, it's nothing more than a story in a book. I believe that there was a beginning, and it started with the spontanious eruption of matter clashing with anti-matter resulting in the electric jolt that blasted us into where we are today. To me, that's a reality.
punKeEbreWstEr65: it all sounds quite story like to me as well
close2thesilence: and that's what's wrong with the world! Now, would you agree that we're seeing eye to eye on this?
punKeEbreWstEr65: no
close2thesilence: no, wait, I mean
punKeEbreWstEr65: i dont believe that complete havoc erupted
close2thesilence: eye to eye on the fact that we both have a firm set of beliefs?
punKeEbreWstEr65: and an able working human "evolved"
punKeEbreWstEr65: yes but that doesnt confirm the fact that i ever want to see you in hell
punKeEbreWstEr65: i want you to be in heaven
punKeEbreWstEr65: i want you to know exactly where you are going if you died
punKeEbreWstEr65: right now
punKeEbreWstEr65: without a doubt
close2thesilence: I know exactly where I'm going
close2thesilence: in the ground!
close2thesilence: or a vase
punKeEbreWstEr65: what happens to your soul
punKeEbreWstEr65: are you nothing more than an animal
close2thesilence: the soul... now there's something worth talking about
close2thesilence: what is your definition of a soul?
punKeEbreWstEr65: your spirit
close2thesilence: no, but, what IS it?
close2thesilence: there's speculation as to what the soul actually is, whether it's a part of the physical body, like an extention of the brain, is it there the entire time? Or does it appear once you die? Or if it's even yours.
punKeEbreWstEr65: it is seperated from the body in death
close2thesilence: so during life, it's a part of the physical body?
punKeEbreWstEr65: its a persons emotional and moran nature. the aninating and vital pricipal credited with thought action and emotion
punKeEbreWstEr65: yes
close2thesilence: to me, the soul is an extention of the mind. Every living thing, like I said before, is made up of electricity. When you die, the life force of your body (your soul) leaves it. The spirit is the electrical charge that enabled the body to function. I agree that it's the emotional/moral/thinking part of the body.
punKeEbreWstEr65: electrical eh>
punKeEbreWstEr65: check in with me later
punKeEbreWstEr65: id love to talk to you somet more
Peace and Llove
Eric
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